Frequently Asked Questions
General Questions
Q:
What are the differences between Indoor, Electric Slow and Park Flyer
Airplanes?
A: Indoor models are typically the smallest, lightest and
slowest of the three, usually weighing less than 8 ounces. Many
indoor venues impose a maximum weight limit, often 150 grams.
Indoor models have very low wing loadings and use the smallest
available cells, 50 or 110mAh being fairly usual, as well as
specialized, often coreless motors. Electric Slow Flyers are sometimes
regarded as an in-between type, the next level up from indoor
models. The term "Slow Flyer" is often used to describe both
indoor models and park flyers. They’re basically small, light
and slow enough to be flown in a backyard or neighborhood park,
rather than a standard club flying field.
Park Flyers are generally too large or heavily loaded to fly
indoors. They tend to use Speed 280-size motors and up, often
geared, and batteries up to about 600mAh. They can weigh
anything up to 18 ounces, though they’re often quite large and
still have light wing loading. They’re also intended for use in
relatively small outdoor areas such as schoolyards or local
parks.
Q:
What kind of equipment do I need before flying?
A: Generally speaking, you need equipment that is very
similar to what other RC flyers require. There are only a few
primary components: radio, battery, charger, speed control,
motor and, of course, the aircraft. The amount of accessories
you purchase are up to you, but most pilots typically buy things
like a soldering iron, flight box, volt/amp meter, etc.
Q:
What tools should I have?
A: There are many normal modeling tools like knives,
wrenches, abrasive paper, etc. that are useful You can get
started in electric flight with very few specialized tools.
There are a few, however, that will make life so much easier
that you’ll soon wonder how you ever did without them. Here are
a few useful tools:
Soldering Iron: This is essential for general wiring. If
you only have one, it should be around 25W. If you’re going to
make your own battery packs, a larger iron will help, preferably
at least 40W and maybe up to 100W.
Multi-Meter: Buying an analog meter isn’t worth it. You
can get a simple digital multi-meter for very little from stores
like Radio Shack. If you can get one that will read DC current
up to at least 20A, that will be helpful (or see Wattmeter
below). But even the simplest will let you measure voltages
accurately, so you know what‘s going on in your power system,
and will also provide a way of checking continuity so you can
make sure all your wiring is intact.
Wattmeter: This device simultaneously measures and
displays voltage and current and will also show the total energy
used. It’s very much like the displays on most good chargers,
but with the great advantage that you can put it anywhere in the
circuit and so measure exactly what is happening. It is
unbeatable for finding out (rather than guessing) what current
you are using and how the battery voltage goes down as the
current increases. It will also allow you to measure your own
motor constants, which is very useful if you want to experiment
with odd (perhaps cheap surplus) motors.
Crimp Tool: Depending upon what type of connectors on
which you decide to standardize, you may find it worth getting a
crimping tool. The one I use is quite expensive, but makes it so
much easier to fit the connectors and makes a much better joint
than a soldered joint.
Tachometer: A good tachometer is very useful if you want
to do some investigating of electric power sources. Even the
most basic of motor parameters involves knowing the speed at
which the motor is rotating.
Digital Scales: All planes fly better if the airframes
are light, and this is especially true of electrics, where the
power package makes up such a high proportion of the overall
weight. It’s probably most important to get scales that can
weigh small amounts fairly accurately (down to 1/10 ounce),
since you’ll be saving weight wherever you can. Some of the best
value to be found is the used postal scales that are sometimes
available. These will be fine, unless your ambitions lie in the
direction of very small and light indoor models. Since the
lightest of these have a total flying weight of well under an
ounce, you will need jeweler’s scales.
Q:
What security procedures should I follow when flying?
A: Don't connect the motor battery until you have your
frequency pin (or other frequency clearance means) and are ready
to either put the plane on the runway or hand-launch. Don't turn
on the radio system until you are ready for your flight. Turn
off the radio system as soon as possible after the flight. Make
sure the throttle is set to off before turning on your
transmitter. Many digital speed controls have a function that
won't allow the motor to turn until the throttle stick has been
in or moved to the low position. Do not make it a habit of
testing this function. Motor-on radio checks must be done with
the aid of a helper. Check the leading edge and tip of your prop
for molding flash, if it's not a wood prop. Carefully sand away
molding flash with fine sandpaper.
Q:
How do you recommend securing the wings? With glue, or just
slide them in place?
A: Sliding the wings in place should be enough. However,
if you feel they are too loose, tape around the stick of the
wing to make tight.
Q:
How is the voltage of a GWS battery pack determined?
A: A GWS battery pack consists of a number of cells,
wired in series. Therefore, the voltage for the pack is equal to
the number of cells multiplied by 1.2 volts (Ni-Cd cells provide
1.2V of electricity). However, because of a cell's internal
resistance, the actual voltage you are getting is slightly
lower—closer to 1.1V per cell or even down to 1V in the higher
current installations.
Q:
How do I calculate the duration of a battery pack?
A: Apply the battery pack's mAh rating to decide how long
the needed current can be delivered in minutes:
Duration = 60 X (capacity/1000) / current
Therefore, to calculate the duration of a 1700mAh pack for a
30-amp draw:
Duration = 60 X 1.7Ah / 30 amps
Duration = 3.4 minutes
We can also get a rough but useful estimate by finding it on the
ground and then multiplying by 0.75. If your propeller is highly
pitched enough so that it is stalled when running static, this
number will be far less accurate.
Q:
What does mAh (milliamp hours) mean?
A: The milliamp hour is the standard unit of storage
capacity for a cell. It is similar to "gallons of fuel" for a
combustion engine. The milliamp hour rating of a cell tells how
many constant milliamps of current can be supplied by the pack
for one hour. This rating can be used to find the duration a
battery pack can provide, given a certain draw. Because cells
are wired in series, the milliamp hour rating of a pack is the
same as the milliamp hour rating of a single cell.
Q:
Should I cycle my packs?
A: You will have to weigh the dangers of cell reversal
against the dangers of Ni-Cd memory. Some people discharge their
packs to 0 volts per cell and say they have never had a problem.
Others say that cycling below 1V is damaging.
Q:
Can I deep-discharge an individual cell safely?
A: It can be discharged to 0 volts per cell safely. Cell
reversal can't occur with individual cells. In fact, cycling an
individual cell is a good way to determine its exact capacity.
Q:
How does charging current relate to capacity?
A: First of all, make sure of the rate for a given length
of charging and use the following rule: Amps = Capacity / Time
to Charge. For instance, to charge a 1200mAh battery in 20
minutes requires a current setting of 3.6 amps: amps = 1200mAh /
.33 hours = 1.2Ah X 3 hours =3.6 amps. The same rule can also be
reworked to determine how long it will take to charge a battery
at a given current: Time to Charge = Capacity / Amps. So, the
time it takes to charge a 1500mAh battery at 5 amps is 18
minutes: Time to Charge = 1500mAh / 5A = 1.5Ah / 5A = 0.3 hours
= 18 minutes. The charging process is not totally efficient;
some of the energy is lost as heat, and the charging takes place
a little longer than this.
Q:
How can I make certain my packs are fully charged?
A: GWS or E-flite™ peak chargers automatically do this.
If you don't have a peak charger, we’ll provide the way to
monitor the charge yourself. You’ll simply stop charging when
one of the following things occurs: either the pack starts to
get warm or the charging voltage starts to drop. Warning: if
you’re doing a manual fast charge (by watching the temperature
and/or voltage yourself), pay attention. If the batteries get
too much charge, they will overheat, and that could damage or
even destroy your batteries.
Q:
What does gearing do for you?
A: Gearing allows a motor to turn a larger prop at lower
rpm. This allows the system to produce more thrust while drawing
the same number of amps. The trade-off is that top speed is
reduced, which makes gearing suitable mostly for slow-flying
aircraft. Sport electric planes are usually run with a direct
drive system.
Q:
How do I compare an electric motor to an IC engine?
A: If you’re looking for a watts-to-horsepower
conversion, then the formula is: 1 brake horsepower = 750 watts.
The problem is that electric motors have many more variables
than IC engines. In order to determine the performance of an
electric motor, you must first answer questions such as how much
duration you want, how much power you need, etc. Gearing also
heavily influences the comparison.
Q:
How much heat can our motors dissipate?
A: At room temperature, according to the industry
standard, 1 watt per square inch for continuous operation (24
hours). It’s about 3 watts per square inch for GWS motors for as
long as a Ni-Cd pack can run it.
Q:
How do I keep my motors clean?
A: If the commutator has deposits of carbon and gunk on
it, you can clean it with scotch rite or a com stick and very
light polishing action. You can also clean off gunk when the
motor is running with a few drops of alcohol. If the commutator
is pitted or shows brush skipping and chattering, it has been
overheated and needs to be returned. It is out of round, and
will not be cured with polishing. You need a lathe with a ball
bearing in the tailstock and a diamond tool, or at least a sharp
cutting tool.
Q:
How do I measure motor constants?
A: Of the three motor constants, Kv and Io are much
easier to measure.
Kv: With the motor shaft in a drill press running at a
known speed, measure the voltage at the motor terminals. Kv =
Speed / Voltage. So if the speed is 6000 rpm and the voltage is
3V, then Kv = 6000/3 = 2000 rpm/V
Io: Simply run the motor with no load (no propeller) and
measure the current taken. You can use almost any voltage,
because the current does not vary with voltage. However, the
motor will still be turning at the rpm defined by V X Kv.
Both Kv and Io should be measured with the motor neutral-timed.
For most can-type motors, this is where they are fixed. If you
do have a motor with adjustable timing, you can try (carefully)
adjusting it as you measure Io. It will be neutral-timed when Io
is at its lowest value.
Rm: This takes a little more work. The motor and shaft
must be held so that neither can move i.e. the motor is stalled.
You then need to apply a voltage through a limiting resistor and
measure the current through the motor and the voltage at the
motor terminals. Note that it must be directly at the motor
terminals, not the power supply. You will need to do this very
quickly, as the current will be high and the motor will quickly
get very hot. Rm is voltage / current. Therefore, if you measure
5A and 1.2V, Rm = 1.2 /5 = 0.24 ohm, a typical value for a Speed
400.
Q:
How many capacitors do I need on the motor and what values?
A: It’s a good idea to fit at least two capacitors to
most brushed motors in order to cut down on the radio
interference that the motor may generate. The same capacitors
can be used for all brushed motors; the value doesn’t change
with the size or power of the motor. The capacitors should be
soldered from each motor terminal to the motor case. For extra
security against interference, you can also fit a third
capacitor between the two motor terminals.
Q:
Can I use a 150mAh 7-cell battery with the IPS? What are that
motor’s maximum amps? I could use a slightly smaller prop if
necessary.
A: You can use a 150mAh 7-cell (8.4V) battery pack for
IPS, but you must install heat sink for the motor available as
optional item. Max amp for that motor would be 1.2A.
Q:
Should I glue the IPS to the IPS mount?
A: There is no need to glue the IPS to the IPS mount.
Just press it in.
Q:
I have purchased your RC Indoor Power System DX-A with 5.86
gear. Could you please advise me of the maximum current (amps)
and maximum number of cells (volts) that I can use?
A: Please be advised that the maximum current for
IPS-DX2BB-A is 1.9 amps/hour, and the maximum number of cells is
six with a Ni-Cd battery.
Q:
I was looking at the Naro flight pack of the package, and I
noticed that the receiver battery is 6.0-7.2V 110-270mAh. I want
to know if the receiver is limited to 270mAh, or can I hook up
300 or 600mAh?
A: Please be advised that the maximum voltage for our
receiver is 12V. However, our servo motor has limited voltage.
The maximum voltage for the servo motor is 6V.
Q:
Last week, I went into a local hobby shop and bought a slow
flyer and one of your R4P receiver packages. I told the clerk I
had an Airdromes FM transmitter, and he sold me the JR receiver
packages. Will this work with my transmitter?
A: It is correct to purchase the JR receiver for the
Airtronics FM transmitter, because the JR receiver shift is the
same as the Airtronics.
Q:
I have purchased two of your GWRD-8 receivers and was assured
that my existing crystals (Hitec dual conversion) would be
suitable to use in them. However, I find that my transmitter (Graupner
MC 20) will not operate the flight pack. Can you offer any
thoughts as to what may be wrong?
A: Please be advised that Graupner MC 20(JR) does not
work with Hitec (FP) because of high or low deviation.
Q:
I was wondering if your 4-channel and 6-channel receivers could
handle a 6V battery. I’m trying to keep weight down and increase
flight times. I purchased 6V Lithium batteries.
A: Our receivers have regulator ICs that can take voltage
up to 12V.
Q:
Please can you tell me the absolute maximum value for the supply
voltage for a Pico F Standard servo?
A: 8 microsecond. We would suggest you use a 5-cell
(6.0V) battery pack.
Q:
Will your servo circuits take a 1-amp stall load?
A: It depends upon which servo you’re talking about. Some
might need a 2- to 3-amp stall load because of high output and
high torque.
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